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Offline adydeere

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Frame number
« on: June 29, 2020, 09:48:46 PM »
Good evening folks,
I am buying a Yamaha as3 from a dealer in Germany (I live here) I need to show the frame and engine number to the police before I commit to check it is not stolen as there is no registration document. The engine number looks fine but the frame numbers last two numbers are not eligible.
Please let me have you opinions.
Greetings from Munich,
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Re: Frame number
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2020, 10:43:06 PM »
Originally the last two digits of the frame number would have been the same as the engine number. The numbers may be obscured by the paint, can you carefully remove some of the paint to see if the numbers are then visible?

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Re: Frame number
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2020, 10:54:54 PM »
A stick of chalk will make the numbers pop out for photo, but this case best after the paint cleaned.

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Re: Frame number
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2020, 08:36:50 AM »
Agree with previous two posts.

I'd be happy to bet that the two numbers are the same (and they HAVE to be between 00 and 99 :D ;)).

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Re: Frame number
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2020, 10:16:39 PM »
Looks like the real as3 not the early rd, fingers crossed eng and frame numbers match, its likely on this model that they do, have you tried a pencil rubbing with thin paper? I find that picks out marks you can't even see with the eye.
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Re: Frame number
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2020, 10:14:23 AM »
Ok this is a real as3 I have not bought it yet as there is no paperwork I just want to be sure it is not stolen. Does anyone know how to check a 9 digit vin as all I can find are the 17 digit checks.

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Re: Frame number
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2020, 10:28:49 AM »
Ok this is a real as3 I have not bought it yet as there is no paperwork I just want to be sure it is not stolen. Does anyone know how to check a 9 digit vin as all I can find are the 17 digit checks.

What are you trying to check Ady?
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Re: Frame number
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2020, 10:29:52 AM »
That it is not stolen.

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Re: Frame number
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2020, 10:38:00 AM »
That it is not stolen.

Sorry mate, no idea how to check if a German bike is stolen or not.  :-\ :(

Edit - is the seller not under some obligation to check, particularly if he's a dealer?
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Yam RD350B rough
Yam RT2 almost finished
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Yam RD125B (probably!) now being reassembled
Yam AS3 in boxes

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Re: Frame number
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2020, 11:49:12 AM »
seeing your in Germany why not contact Ole Larsen of Yamahaparts.com, I think its Holland, he is probably the world expert and has a fantastic museum stuffed with them, if you go to his site there is a mine of info. https://www.yamaparts.com/museum/yamaha-as3/
I am trying to find the details I have on the production numbers etc. I know I have somewhere.
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Re: Frame number
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2020, 02:04:50 PM »
Thanks Barnett, Ive sent them an Email.

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Re: Frame number
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2020, 09:28:18 PM »
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Re: Frame number
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2020, 09:45:00 PM »
Its Europe  :o
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Re: Frame number
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2020, 09:15:28 PM »
Have you actually bought this yet as I'd steer well clear of a bike with dodgy numbers.

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Re: Frame number
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2020, 09:20:34 PM »
Have you actually bought this yet as I'd steer well clear of a bike with dodgy numbers.

Not sure the numbers are dodgy as such, more a case of doing the German equivalent of our HPI check.
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Yam RD350B rough
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Yam RD125B (probably!) now being reassembled
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