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Offline Astute Greaser

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C&E 389, is this a NOVA
« on: April 17, 2019, 11:55:02 PM »
Just picked up someone else’s given up project, sad really as his missus being treated for cancer and he's lost his mojo :( .
Basically a Frame, engine and 80% of rest. No mudguards, RH panel, carbs, clocks, seat etc, the difficult bits but has great forks and ok wheels!!
It appears to be a USA RD200C, similar to a UK RD200B but with front disc brake on spoked wheel, chromed clocks and USA decals on round tank.
The 581- 0010** frame and 397-01**** “A” engine clearly don’t have matching numbers. It came with C&E 389 vat form for import from outside of EC ie USA. The form is dated 18/2/98. It also came with a V55/5 blank form but with a unique issue number A361****. No doubt the frame has passed through many hands in the last 21 years.
Is the C&E 389 a NOVA. Do you think this bikes paperwork is capable to get a V5 if I rebuild this?
Your opinions welcome please. Happy to PM copies of forms.
It would be shame to scrap this frame as early number, within 900th bike for non-uk. :(
« Last Edit: April 18, 2019, 12:14:36 AM by Astute Greaser »

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Re: C&E 389, is this a NOVA
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2019, 07:57:44 AM »
Hopefully Paul Dawkins will reply to your message, if not it would be worthwhile to message him

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Re: C&E 389, is this a NOVA
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2019, 03:47:59 PM »
PM sent to Paul.
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Re: C&E 389, is this a NOVA
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2019, 06:37:49 PM »
The C and E 389 is a thing before NOVA came out to prove the tax had been paid and you will need this to get a NOVA so call HMRC and explain the bike came from the USA in 1998 and you have the C&E and you want a NOVA number. That should be easy to sort. Then just send off the V55/5 for a reg number.
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Re: C&E 389, is this a NOVA
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2019, 09:46:01 PM »
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Re: C&E 389, is this a NOVA
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2019, 07:46:07 PM »
The C and E 389 is a thing before NOVA came out to prove the tax had been paid and you will need this to get a NOVA so call HMRC and explain the bike came from the USA in 1998 and you have the C&E and you want a NOVA number. That should be easy to sort. Then just send off the V55/5 for a reg number.

What happens if you have no NOVA or 389? Looking at a project that is Dutch registered with the Dutch identity card and nothing else but is in the UK. What would I need to get it registered?

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Re: C&E 389, is this a NOVA
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2019, 10:08:20 PM »
So actually got round to ringing HMRC tel 0300 322 7071. That took a lot of finding out!!!
They advised filling in a VAT NOVA 1 form but it would have to be sent in, not online as the online system could not cope/understand.
They said to download a copy of the form off web and manually fill in as this would save 10 days of them having to send one out.
Ignore the address on the form and send to Personal Transport Unit, HMRC, BX9 1GD
Basically repeated the detail on the C&E 389 to the form.
3 weeks later the NOVA come through. :D
In business always found the VAT side of HMRC farther easier and knowledgeable.
So now I've got my project over Autumn/Winter   :)
Thanks Paul for the above advise and other.  8)
« Last Edit: October 21, 2019, 10:10:18 PM by Astute Greaser »