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Offline Paul Dawkins

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« on: October 29, 2010, 03:40:14 AM »
Yamaha Motorcycle Dating service

We are accredited by the DVLA to issue Certificates of Age on all motorcycles.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE DISCOUNT MENTIONED IS FOR MEMBERS OF THE CLUB AND ONLY APPLIES TO A YAMAHA AIRCOOLED RD 2 STROKE

 If you have an old Yamaha motorcycle that has never been registered, or one that the DVLA do not have any records for, and you wish to retain the original (or obtain an age-related) registration number plate then you need this service.

Back in 1974, the DVLA started computerising vehicle registrations. Before then registrations were carried out by County Councils or Borough Councils, but Centralised Registration pulled all these records together onto a computerised system. Of course, many registrations were lost or not transferred by the various councils, and when all the old records had finally been entered (by about 1980) there were still many vehicles that were not on the new register.

In order to retain an original (or obtain an age-related) registration number, you first need to apply for a Dating Certificate from the appropriate vehicle enthusiasts club. For Yamahas, the Aircooled RD club is the authorised vehicle enthusiasts club.

To apply for a Date Certificate for your Yamaha you need to get together as much documentation about your machine as possible, and as many photos as you can get your hands on. As a minimum you should have photos of both sides of the bike, the Engine Number, and the Frame Number. If you have any original Bills of Sale or Service documents then this will make the job much easier. In fact, any dated information you can supply on your machine will make your case that much stronger.

Once you have got all your evidence you need to send it to the Club"s Machine Registrar along with your payment. The service costs £15 for members of the Club or £30 for this service including club membership  (Paypal to paul@motorbikeregistrations.co.uk)
If you are choosing to join the club as well please send £15 to paul@motorbikeregistrations.co.uk and £15 to payments@aircooledrdclub.co.uk)


Please note: To get the club members discount price the motorcycle must be a Yamaha Air Cooled Two stroke. Others will be charged at the standard price of £30.






After obtaining your Dating Certificate, you can send it along with the appropriate forms to the DVLA to obtain your authorisation to use the original registration number. More information about registering your motorcycle can be obtained from the DirectGov web site



www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/RegisteringAVehicle/index.htm





The Yamaha dating officer is: Paul Dawkins, Linwood Cottage, Greenhill Lane, Toothill, Rownhams, Southampton, Hampshire, SO16 8AN.

If you have any queries about this service please email paul@motorbikeregistrations.co.uk or send a PM to Paul Dawkins.









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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2010, 05:23:46 PM »
I have sent my V5 off to the DVLA to notify them of an engine change.Pretty straight forward if you are changing like for like.



I was notifying them that I had put a "398" 400 motor into a 250 bike.

Their letter read



To update our records with the change of vehicle details, you must provide evidence from the list below(choose one)



A receipt of purchase on headed paper, from a garage, confirming the engine number,engine size(cc)and the fuel type of the reconditioned or replacement engine, if one has been fitted.



An inspection report from an organisation such as AA or RAC.



An inspection report for insurance purposes.



Written confirmation from the manufacturer showing the engine size and number.







If the change took place before you bought the vehicle.(which it had)



Written confirmation on headed paper from the garage that carried out the conversion.

or

Written confirmation of the change on headed paper from an independent garage.



PLEASE NOTE very few manufacturers produce an engine size of exactly 398. If your evidence does not provide an accurate engine size, it may be rejected.





The last opotion is the one I used. Headed letter from bike shop with colour,cc and engine number.



Could the club now provide the proof required? As this is quite a common conversion.



Tony

It's better now, than it was before, when it was worse than what it is now.

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 08:37:51 PM »
I can issue a letter stating the engine size from the engine numbers.

I have done this and DVLA accepted it without question.

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2011, 05:09:45 PM »
Know anyone who can issue a cert for a Duke?



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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 05:16:44 PM »
Paul is on holiday for a few days but he will be back soon ,

Merv
Motorcycling is not, of itself, inherently dangerous. It is, however, extremely unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence, or stupidity"

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 05:19:52 PM »
 
Quote from: mervin
Paul is on holiday for a few days but he will be back soon ,

Merv




Would you know if he is able to do them?

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 05:33:51 PM »
I am not sure on that one

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Motorcycling is not, of itself, inherently dangerous. It is, however, extremely unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence, or stupidity"

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2011, 08:56:48 PM »
Thanks anyway

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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2011, 11:32:05 AM »
Hi mate

I can do most machines if I can find the info I need.

I will be back on 27th, just give me a call then and I take a look.

PM me the frame numbers and the model.



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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2011, 01:18:17 PM »
Paul its not for me,Pm me an email or tel number and ill pass it on,no rush.



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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2011, 12:05:49 PM »
All the numbers and email are in the above post mate.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2011, 12:35:04 PM »
so they are



Thanks will pass them on.

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« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2011, 03:31:41 PM »
Hi there,
Hope you don"t mind but i"d like to pick your brains with regards DVLA dating, i"m not an owner of a aircooled rd, at the moment anyway, but i currently have a yam TDR250, and a half assembled RD350LC. My question with regards dating certificate application, is it possible to do this with a half finished project? I can take photos of the LC as it stands assembled (wheels,engine,tank/panels,seat, etc). Photos of the frame and engine No"s no problem, is this enough to obtain the required certificate, or is it best to finish off the lot, mot it on the frame number and go from there?
Just a bit dubious to go to the expense and time to finish this, only to not get the dating certificate at the end.
Thanks for any light you can shed on this, obviously i"ll contact Paul to progress this certificate as req"d.
Andy

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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2011, 03:41:48 PM »
Hi Andy and welcome to the forum.

A dating certificate will short cut the excess of MOT"ing a bike on the frame number and the VIC test to follow.
Once you have the certificate you submit it to the DVLA and you will be awarded an age related plate.

Another option is to get a HPI check done on the chassis number, this may reveal the original reg no. and save you some cash.

We have some people here who may be able to help, alas it"s not for me to say who they are, these priveledges are usually retained for paid up RD club members!
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« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2011, 04:02:40 PM »
Ta RDly,
Looked at HPI, but all seem to need a 17 digit VIN number, but the LC only has 9 digits
Probs going to join up anyway, seems a canny source of knowledge anyway, never too much info where the smokers are concerned.
Will the photos as mentioned above be sufficient for the certificate?
cheers,
Andy