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Title: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 13, 2019, 07:53:11 PM
Hi Ive been playing around with a few bits on my 350 silver dust and thought  id start another thread as all the others have helped me I should have taken a few more pics but will start now probably be a slow restore but hoping to use it next summer
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on August 13, 2019, 08:41:34 PM
Photographs would be great
Looking forward to any updates

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 13, 2019, 08:45:29 PM
Air box or swiss cheese this is the state of my airbox the lid has been cut so needed repairing as did the bottom of the air box probably should have found another but wheres the fun in that found an old briggs petrol tank which was the ideal gauge for repair.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 13, 2019, 08:46:38 PM
where do you start I tll get some pics of the finished airbox tomorrow
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Post by: joolsuk on August 14, 2019, 06:46:59 PM
What is a 350 silver dust ? what year is it?
do you have pic of the bike before you did the tear down ?
Be  nice for the scrap book !

What are your intentions for the bike ? mechanical restore ? as new ? Or
somewhere in between?



Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on August 14, 2019, 07:02:04 PM


What is a 350 silver dust ?

Come on jools, your other questions are very reasonable, but this one?????

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 14, 2019, 07:40:44 PM
Box of bits im afraid uk  1975 350b 521
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 14, 2019, 08:13:19 PM
Heres a couple of pics the finished air box it is missing the two holes for tubes from the bottom of the carbs i still need to drill them.
I scaled a couple of pics that were posted into auto cad and came up with this template which looks close but havnt got an original air box to try it on I did go to see someone nearby with the same bike in bits but that was missing the air box to so that didnt help
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on August 14, 2019, 08:49:30 PM
Well done with the airbox! It had certainly gained a few extra holes since Mr Yamaha last saw it

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: rd350nick on August 14, 2019, 08:59:16 PM
Yeah as Motty said good job with the air box, i'm not sure where the holes are meant to be on the air box, mine is a 1975 521 uk bike and dosn't have any place to put the carb bowl breather tubes into, i just led them up the side of the air box.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 14, 2019, 09:03:07 PM
Heres the pic I used to put into auto cad to get the template
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 14, 2019, 09:13:57 PM
My seat base was not quite as bad but not good it looked ok before I blasted it.
It took to many hours to repair but finally done and the ones for sale seem worse than what I had foam was ok as was the trim and new seat cover is here from pit Replica so thats to be fitted next wish id taken some before pics but cant find anything
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: joolsuk on August 15, 2019, 08:07:54 AM
I see now the silver dust was a one off ridden by the
bishop of Durham! 
I guess some threads have it some.dont .
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 16, 2019, 10:48:00 PM
I got my seat cover fitted today  just clipped in for now  am thinking of gluing the edges  to tidy it up but will let it stretch for a couple of days and fit strap.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 17, 2019, 09:20:50 PM
Few pics of frame and swing arm blasted and primed turned some new bushes before i paint it I decided to spray it as im not a great fan of powder coat it always looks a bit plastic to me and anything that had rust pits seems to retain them after being powder coated though it seems im in the minority here
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 17, 2019, 09:38:00 PM
Few pics of paint just waiting for decals to turn up cant say im looking forward fitting them but ill see how they go and post some pics when there fitted still need to find the right position for tank decal as my tank had been painted before with out any decals left hopefully I might be able to scan a pic into auto cad and scale it to get them about right
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: GR400 on August 17, 2019, 10:33:21 PM
My 350b I believe still has original factory paint and decals.  If you want some pictures let me know and I'll take tomorrow
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 17, 2019, 10:40:24 PM
That would be great Ive got the oil tank decal position and I guess the side panel would be the same so its just the tank if you could take a straight on photo that would be great I should be able to get what I need from that
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: stukey on August 18, 2019, 01:40:10 AM
original  decals were fitted on production line each side by women in ten seconds oil-tank and side panel decals fitted after they were on bike and not laquered over
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: GR400 on August 18, 2019, 12:18:35 PM
These any help?  I'm pretty sure original paint:

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 18, 2019, 12:37:54 PM
Sure is I’ll see what happens in Auto cad thanks for the photos
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Post by: doggone1 on August 18, 2019, 12:39:29 PM
That’s a nice looking bike you’ve got there
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: GR400 on August 18, 2019, 02:48:30 PM
Thanks.  Had it a couple of years and not really touched it yet.  A genuine survivor bike.  Not run for at least 20 years and been in storage longer than that.  Looking forward to getting her going again when my 400 is eventually finished!
 
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 18, 2019, 04:45:42 PM
Thats one rare find are you going to restore it or keep it original
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 18, 2019, 04:47:39 PM
10 seconds stukey I was thinking more like ten hours
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: GR400 on August 18, 2019, 07:12:08 PM
Thats one rare find are you going to restore it or keep it original

I'm leaning towards as little as possible cosmetically to retain as much originality as I can.  Hope to get onto it next year, meanwhile I just enjoy looking at it!
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 18, 2019, 09:47:02 PM
Ive got  a project that only gets admiring glances as well I think your heading down the right road with that one some projects you have no  choice but to restore and some are best left alone ive got am old mf 35 multi power tractor thats all original with original suppliers stickers etc  im the second owner from new and it is in original used condition and I use it for all the baling topping etc but could never restore it only maintain it personal preference I suppose
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 20, 2019, 07:34:50 PM
Managed to spray the horn and engine mount brackets this evening also blasted the seat hinges and the pins and re zinc plated them as they were quite rusty decals also turned up so will have a go at them next they dont seem right when flat but im sure when there on the curve of tank all will become clear as mud
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 20, 2019, 08:00:45 PM
Well it got the better of me looking at the decals flat there was no way they would line up with each other so i had to go back out and tape them roughly in position on the tank and they were fine I think im going to cut them near to size tape the where im happy with them then use some fine line tape to mark there position before I stick them on
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: GR400 on August 20, 2019, 10:28:43 PM
Coming along well  :) You have a great bunch of skills for this game. I take it this isn’t your first restoration adventure?
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 21, 2019, 07:57:09 PM
it is my second i restored a Benneli 750 sei about thirty years ago but I doubt if Id be pleased with the quality now
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 21, 2019, 08:12:12 PM
Tackled my rear light  this evening blasted light with glass bead and the popped it in my home made zinc plate solution not expecting to much as it was quite rusty at the bottom although I was pleased when it came out you only get what you put in so the rust pits are still there but at least its plated to prevent any further corrosion to try and polish them out or fill with solder would have been a major undertaking for something you cant see
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 21, 2019, 08:32:54 PM
Tackled Light so I thought I would have a go at the decals for my bodywork been reading joolsuks tank restoration and theres been some interesting posts on decals which led me to go for the wet method not confident enough to do them dry anyway I only did the side panel and oil tank and they went on very well I used 800 wet and dry before I started I put two drops of fairy liquid in a spray bottle sprayed the panel and peeled the backing off decal and sprayed this as well then carefully peeled of the top layer before placing the decal roughly where i wanted it it was easy to move it about till I was happy with it then i used a squeegee to work the water outwards from the middle of decal I intend to lacquer them when fully dry minimum 12 hours although I dont think they would have been originally.
I set the decals out on the tank from a scaled picture in auto cad   which seem to tally perfectly with the decal and tank sizes although rd350nick is kindly going to email me some measurements so ill see how they match up hope they go on as well as the side panel and oil tank.
i found this youtube video helpful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTrbrxmjgqQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTrbrxmjgqQ)
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 22, 2019, 11:49:06 PM
Managed to lacquer the side panels and oil tank this evening
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 24, 2019, 07:12:47 PM
well I made the most of the hot weather and sprayed my frame and swing arm today gave it a sealer coat of thinned epoxy primer and 3 coats of solid black 2k
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on August 24, 2019, 10:01:51 PM
It's nice to see more progress
Did you spray the frame and S/A outside? You didn't have any issues with dust or insects?

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 24, 2019, 10:34:54 PM
Yes sprayed all paintwork outside didnt have a problem with dust one thistle seed landed on frame but managed to pick it of sometimes you may get the odd insect but the paint flashes off very quickly so no major problems and a bit of 2000 wet and dry and some compound normally sorts those out i think the 2k gives a tough protection.
Im still thinking of giving it a light going over with a rattle can as this is the nearest ive found to original finish although thats being a bit picky but does have the advantage of being very easy to repair any damage in the future or when assembling the bike.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: joolsuk on August 25, 2019, 04:18:30 AM
Very impressed with progress !

Did you do a lot of work to de grease the frame ?
After was is 80/180 to sand down then prime ?

Only ask as I have been considering spraying my own frame.
(I would do it satin black then clear coat but to de grease would be hard
unless I took it to a sand blasters )

Also
Q) What are the paints you use ? solid black 2k ?
(I am no spraying expert bit can with rattle cans )
I take it you must have a spraying compressor ? and
not rattle canning it?
q) will you clear coat it ?
q) did you prime and base coat black in one day ?
just wandered about the drying times ..... but looks sunny.

p.s I agree now wet is the only way for decals .
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 25, 2019, 06:52:52 PM
I blasted it myself as it was pretty rusty i blasted it a while ago and never got round to priming it and it went rusty again so this time I primed it straight after I primed it with epoxy primer then high build primer 600 wet dry then thinned down coat of epoxy primer 20 minutes then on with 2 pack black gloss i wasnt happy with the finish though it just didnt look  right so today I flatted it again with 600 wet dry then did it with simoniz black gloss rattle can and im very pleased with the results looks very much like the original finish the simoniz rattle cans ive been getting from zoro and I find it very good gloss satin matt and high build primer about £2.50 for a 500ml can so its cheap as well
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: joolsuk on August 26, 2019, 08:43:23 AM
So you reckon a gloss finish rather than a satin black  ?
for the original look ?

Very jealous of the space and sand blaster you have !
will you clear coat it ?
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: stukey on August 26, 2019, 11:26:41 AM
just a rivet counter observation ;) the decals were put on in factory by women who had 10 seconds and were done both at same time by different women each side of conveyor :o the side-panel and oil tank decals were put on after they were fitted to bike and were not laquered on.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: joolsuk on August 26, 2019, 03:29:44 PM
I will take that and apply my rear decal as you say (standard way)
and polish over.
And good to know how they did it in the factory.

(not wanting to intrude too much on this thread but I
clearcoat my tank with petrol res clear coat as i use cheapo
halfords spray (which is not bad to be honest ) and it protects it.
2 years on the 750 and works a treat !

Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 26, 2019, 04:44:17 PM
I did think about leaving them without clear but opted for the protection to be honest you cant really tell they've been cleared over im sure Ill get a few rivet counting moments along the way but Im not looking for perfection just what Im doing im giving my best shot
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 26, 2019, 04:55:37 PM
The space is a bonus  shot blaster I started with was a small 20l pot hoodie mask and goggles but it still got in everywhere and was slow but worked ok I blasted outside on a tarpaulin to save some media.
I also brought a cheap blast cabinet which is handy for smaller parts without the dust but as with all blasting compressed air is what you need in great quantities
I was offered a vintage hydrovane and large pot for £300 so couldnt refuse as I had somewhere to put it brought a second hand clemco blast helmet and some breathing filters which made it a much better.
You can get an attachment to go on a pressure washer that draws sand in with the water
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 26, 2019, 04:58:55 PM
Hi jools I personally think the gloss is pretty close to original if thats what your after I was comparing to an old R5 frame that has original paint in fairly good condition and its a pretty close match to that
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 27, 2019, 08:15:25 PM
Frame and swingarm finished
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Post by: doggone1 on August 27, 2019, 08:18:08 PM
Mission Control wanted a couple of chairs blasting so it would be rude not to put in a few extras
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 27, 2019, 08:25:45 PM
Few more bits plated tried making up some nickel plate solution slightly different method to zinc and seemed to need more current but it came out quite nice i didnt prepare before plating only glass bead blasted then in acid pickle and into  nickel tank much harder than zinc
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: joolsuk on August 28, 2019, 12:46:46 PM
One quick quest:
Did or do you intend to clear coat the frame ?
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 28, 2019, 08:09:04 PM
No im just going to leave it as is
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on August 29, 2019, 08:27:52 PM
Managed to prime and spray a few more bits over the bank holiday any ideas on the colour for the rear number plate and light bracket I seem to recall Ford Moondust Silver would this be a close enough match
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: magbuster on August 30, 2019, 08:20:56 AM
Nice work.

Nickel tank are one of my favourite bands.

Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 02, 2019, 09:24:59 PM
managed to get my brake rod plated had to adapt a bit of old guttering to fit it in but my zinc anodes got a bit thin and snapped in half
so i decided to make a mold and re smelt them first attempt was aluminium but this started to melt next attempt was a bit of steel but this was another failure the molten zinc just stuck to it and wouldn't release the anode final attempt was a stainless mold which worked very well a released quite easily so good to go with anodes again next time im in cowes ill pop in and pick up some knackered boat anodes and use these to make my anodes in future.
I found that I was plating with three anode around the bucket but was not as shiny as I would like even after carding so i tried with two and the results were better and with one anode better still I also turned turned the current up a bit on the brake rod after the first carding but this had the effect of giving it an rough orange peel effect so I had to replate it at a lower current and it came out quite well .
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 04, 2019, 08:12:24 PM
Got a bit sidetracked  a welder and plasma cutter came up for sale locally Ive always wanted to have a go at tig welding so thought id give them a go at £70 for the pair the tig fan wasnt working but this was a fairly easy fix and it arcs fine now just need to get some pure argon to test it properly as for the plasma this had a faulty capacitor but works fine now they are old but good quality machines so should see me out the plasma will cut 30mm steel but says it uses 22kw at max bit scary on the next leccy bill
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Astute Greaser on September 04, 2019, 09:33:02 PM
If its at your house be more worried about burning out your wiring.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 04, 2019, 09:38:52 PM
Luckily Ive got three phase here there both three phase machines
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on September 04, 2019, 10:05:42 PM
You have certainly got some decent kit there

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 04, 2019, 10:58:43 PM
Well pleased with them plasma seems easy to use just need a template or straight edge as guide not so sure about the tig think its going to be a learning curve
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 06, 2019, 07:21:44 PM
Little bit of progress this evening managed to fit the center stand and polish the bearing race for the forks before I upend it.
Reamed the paint out of the frame ready for swing arm that epoxy primer takes some shifting then fitted the swing arm temporarily and finished spraying the footrest brackets so I can fit the swing arm permanently when there dry.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 09, 2019, 06:21:05 PM
Managed to get my engine mounting bolts plated over the weekend so now I need to strip the engine and rebuild the crank and see if it needs boring or just new rings suspect it will need boring as compression is low unless the rings are just glued to the pistons.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 09, 2019, 06:48:00 PM
Thought id have a quick look at my master cylinder tonight I tried to get the dust seal out without damaging it but it was not to be retaining ring was rusted and seal was quite perished.
Ive read these are quite hard to find but had a kit for my z1a here and the dust seal is a good replacement these are easily available so will be using that although the other seals are different.
Then I ground down some old snipe nose pliers to get the circlip out it was quite rusted so I soaked it in penetrating fluid and used a pick to free it up and then the pliers lifted it quite well.
Then I taped a bit of rag to some mild steel bar and covered it with solvol autosol and put  it in a drill to polish the bore it seems to have done a good job and looks to be in very good condition.
Next job will be to lightly bead blast the outside and clean the small return hole Im going to leave the reservoir in place as it could cause more problems if I try to  remove it.
Ive got a couple of these master cylinders and one larger one not sure what thats from very similar just bigger definitely looks Yamaha.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 12, 2019, 08:11:17 PM
My second set of decals arrived today dont ask.
Image works took pity on me and did them half price couldnt have been more helpful Ill never fit them dry again.
Anyway I was nervous about trying again but determined to get them as good as I could.
I cut the decals as close to there actual size as I could i found this allowed them to take to the shape of the tank better and taped them in place I found that for me the best place to start was putting a fine line tape to the right dimension along the bottom of the tank and work up form here many thanks to rd350nick for the pics and dimensions.
Then when I was happy with them and the spacings there is quite a few places they have to line up in fact Image Works said they had trouble with them but said that the pre A,s were even worse. I proceeded to mark them out with 3mm fine line tape and used 5mm fine line tape for the spacing between decals then removed the decals leaving the tape outline.
When I started to fit them I found that spraying the tank with water and a couple of drops of fairy liquid then removing the backing tape and spraying the decal before appyling it allowed quite a bit of movement I started with the bottom line then the top then the middle followed by the Yamaha decal then on to the one on the top of the tank now I just need to get then lacquered and thats the body work finished and the cat can have its bed back.
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Post by: Astute Greaser on September 12, 2019, 09:05:42 PM
Beautiful ;D
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Post by: 5port on September 12, 2019, 10:00:53 PM
Good work!

5port
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Post by: GR400 on September 13, 2019, 10:11:14 AM
Nice job!
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 13, 2019, 05:51:27 PM
Managed to get the tank lacquered after work today glad its finished quite a learning curve but very pleased with the finished job
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 16, 2019, 09:08:19 PM
Not much happening but did manage to get my footrests plated and new rubbers fitted it seems quite hard to get them to plate inside the tubes  so ill do the inside with a bit of zinc paint to protect them.
Going to look at an RD200b for sale tomorrow no idea of value but it is a uk bike in good condition so Ill see what its like in the flesh
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on September 16, 2019, 09:39:16 PM


Going to look at an RD200b for sale tomorrow no idea of value but it is a uk bike in good condition so Ill see what its like in the flesh
It would be a nice one to add to your collection.
The chrome and tinware is very hard to find in reasonable condition


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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 17, 2019, 08:52:39 PM
Thanks never got there today but will check out tinware and chrome hes asking 3k not sure if its good or bad dont see many for sale looks good in the pics but will have a good look hopefully tomorrow
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Astute Greaser on September 17, 2019, 11:38:22 PM
That's the second one of these 397 engines I've seen with fin spacers  ???
Also been done up to look like RD200A not B. That's the paint job of my 74 in Virginia Gold
See SupeRDel thread on RD200 models
https://www.aircooledrdclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=650.0 (https://www.aircooledrdclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=650.0)
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: stukey on September 18, 2019, 08:10:07 AM
Give NSR NICK a shout for seals don't use scambits ones, they are rubbish.You were right to not take off resivoir, they have a really fine thread and never seem to seal when you put back on.  The larger master cylinder is probably off an xs650 which had twin discs.I have a couple myself.They look the same but are larger.Do you know the girls had ten seconds to fit decals on tanks originally and only did one side each :o :o
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 18, 2019, 09:02:17 PM
Thanks for the that ill get them fron nick
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Post by: doggone1 on September 18, 2019, 09:05:25 PM
Heres a pic of the RD200 before it was touched
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Post by: Steve Moffat on September 28, 2019, 02:44:20 PM
Great work on the 350,impressed with you doing all the work especially the paintwork and decals,well done.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on September 30, 2019, 08:00:43 PM
Thanks for that progress has slowed due to other commitments hope to get back to it soon
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Post by: doggone1 on October 09, 2019, 07:34:01 PM
Dug out my rear mudguards tonight one is probably past it so is the other but I need one so Im going to have a go at repairing them uk one is the worst so ill start on the non uk one as its a bit more solid.
I cut out  the bad area this had cracked and been brazed so I thought it better
 to remove it completely I dressed a new piece to weld back but in not sure whether to mig or tig the patch back in but heading towards mig as I haven't much experience with tig welding so Ill see how it goes.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on October 09, 2019, 11:37:38 PM
Bikes used in the UK seem to have more problems with the tinware than other countries.

Given the standard of your previous work, I'm sure these will look excellent as well
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on October 15, 2019, 05:39:16 PM
Mig welded the patch in I think it would have been ok if id taken my time but I rushed it and it is no good at all so Im going to redo it properly this time going to make a wooden dolly the same shape as the inside of the mudguard to dress it properly and i am going to tig braze the patch in hopefully I can get it right this time ill do it when ive got a bit more time and in the right frame of mind
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Post by: doggone1 on October 19, 2019, 09:10:16 PM
Not had much time at the moment but did manage to get the tig I brought fired up HF  isnt working but it seems fine with lift start first ever go so not to unhappy tried on a piece of ally and its a learning curve waiting for the weld pool to form before starting to add the filler also not removing the torch at the end of the weld
Travel speed seems important and not touching down to contaminate tungsten first I thought it would be impossible but getting there slowly did have a go at some tig brazing on a scrap piece the same as the mudguard I need to repair and it seemed much easier than the ally just waiting for some tungstens for steel to turn up and ill have another go at it
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Post by: doggone1 on October 20, 2019, 05:49:28 PM
Got a bit better today just waiting for my steel tungstens then I can have another go at the mudguard
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on October 29, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
Haven't had much time so making little progress although my grab rail turned up and appears in good condition polished the light rust of with some solvol and I think ill get away without re-chroming it hope its the right one looks like a little mark in the last photo but its only the light
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: 5port on October 29, 2019, 09:59:36 PM
 :D
How come none of your pics show it in the fitted orientation?  It goes with the lifting loop on the LHS so you can stand next to the bike on it's left side and stand on the main stand arm while you heave on the loop with your right hand.  ;)

5port
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on October 30, 2019, 06:47:17 PM
You beat me to it didnt realize I hadnt taken a pic of it up the right way last night and couldnt be bothered to go back out so added one tonight.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 12, 2019, 05:23:29 PM
Life takes you off in different directions needed to put in a new drive as the old one was quite dangerous to get out of which involved quite a lot of work rerouting it through a field and building a bridge across the river Medina planning wanted the old one blocking of in stone because the house is listed anyway thats done so I got a chance to start back on the RD for a couple of hours I also acquired a mill that was for sale locally for £200 so thought it was worth a go as it was in bits but turned out ok as it was all there in the end so I thought Id give it a go boring out a broken mirror in one of my master cylinders found it a lot easier to center than my pillar drill Ive just bored through at 6mm and filled the hole with penetrating oil and will leave it soaking for a week or two then Ill try opening it out a bit more hoping the drill might bring it out with it as its a left hand thread if not ill try and pick the old thread out or re tap it I would have tried welding a nut to it with the tig but cant get the fluid bowl of and was worried about the heat distorting it.
The tig welding is progressing well on aluminium managed to mend a few thing already including an old set of Matchless casing so I need to get back on the brazing now and have another go at the mudguard
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: GR400 on December 12, 2019, 06:11:49 PM
That's definitely worth effort to save.  One of the 'Europe B only' rocking horse sh*t items
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Post by: doggone1 on December 12, 2019, 06:50:57 PM
Hopefully it should be ok if Im careful the bore is in excellent condition so ill take my time with it
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 15, 2019, 05:31:06 PM
Managed to get a day in the workshop today so I thought I would  start my forks.
First job was to remove the studs they were well in there but with a bit of heat and a couple of nuts they gave in and came out.
Next was to remove the bottom Allen screws I thought id have to make something to hold the damper while I unscrewed them but they came undone with a knacker knacker gun easily so i thought I was home and dry until i removed the dust covers and saw that the fork seals were quite corroded.
After pondering the best way forward I decided to cut an old washer bolt it on to a bit of threaded bar and slide it under them then I put a plate on top of the forks and tightened another nut to pull them up once I had a bit of pressure on them I heated them and once they started to move I found a bit of tube the right size to let them pull up and out they were quite tight but came in the end with the help of the blowtorch this was this was the hardest part for me although I hadn't anticipated it being so.
Next I sanded out some dings on the stanchions working my way down to 2000 grit then polished them up same with the top nuts dressed a couple of dings out then polished them.
Then on to plating the studs and seal retainers I left them in for 40 minutes and blue passivate for 30 seconds although there not that shiny as they were quite pitted they are well zinc plated for future protection and wont be seen.
Dust seals are perished so will need replacing Im thinking of using nikone fork seals and the fork tubes ill send of to be hard chromed but all in all good day at the office for a change.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on December 15, 2019, 07:36:32 PM
Well done for getting them apart without incurring any damage

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 16, 2019, 05:56:42 PM
Bit more progress today thought I would start on the wiring loom first I took the regulator and rectifier off the battery box which was quite bent so I straightened it blasted it in the blast cabinet and primed it.
Next was the fuse holder no fuse in there just a big old bit of wire cleaned it up plated the clip and cleaned the terminals.
Then I had a look at the dash loom two of the bulb holders are shot and one isnt great so ill replace these when I find something that will fit into the original rubbers.
The rest of the loom isn't to bad so Im going to put soda back in the blast cabinet and use it to clean all the terminals plastic connectors etc then do any repairs if needed and re tape with some PVC loom tape I managed to clean the part label its not to bad so ill put it back on when I tape up the loom.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 16, 2019, 07:39:36 PM
put the studs back in forks and went to put the end cap back on to keep it all together when I removed the end cap originally it was quite tight and the studs were bent so I straightened them before I refitted them but couldn't get the end cap on so I removed the studs and tried the  end cap without the studs fitted and it was a smaller diameter than the forks so I tried then end cap on my R5 spindle and it was the same as that.
I did have another set of 350 forks that had the mudguard lugs removed so I took the cap of those and it was a correct fit I tried bolting on to the spindle and all seems good guess these bikes have been through a few pairs of careless hands in there time.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 19, 2019, 07:53:51 PM
Blasted my loom tonight with soda first time Ive tried this but it has come up quite well and taken all the corrosion of the connectors and cleaned the plastic as well.
I forgot to take some before pics but took one before I finished blasting.
Just need to address a couple of bits I missed and tape it up with new loom tape.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 20, 2019, 06:22:48 PM
Cleaned up my voltage regulator and painted the back for protection it should be plated but seemed like a lot of work to get it to bits to plate it ill do the front tomorrow and re plate the cover as that comes off.
Then I had a go at one of the rotten bulb holders on the dash loom took the new one to bits and soldered the earth wire on to the bottom of the new holder then I removed the live connector and soldered that onto the loom and fitted it back in the original rubber I just need to clean the rubbers and replace one more thats past its sell by and that will be one more bit ready
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on December 20, 2019, 07:47:54 PM
There looks to be a lot of attention to detail on this rebuild. Thank you for documenting it for us

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: rsvr1000 on December 20, 2019, 08:06:03 PM
I have good results by putting looms in pillow cases and with the towlels on a 40C wash in the washing machine. I then put in the dryer for 20 mins  :D :D amazing results , just done one a X7 project
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 20, 2019, 10:09:54 PM
Ill have to wait till mission control goes shopping and give it a go
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: rsvr1000 on December 21, 2019, 03:28:05 PM
Ill have to wait till mission control goes shopping and give it a go


This is how they turn out after a 40C wash

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 21, 2019, 05:07:53 PM
Thats as good as new Ive finished my loom now but the next one will be going in the wash thanks for the tip
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 21, 2019, 05:14:47 PM
I managed to get the loom finished plate the regulator cover and gloss the battery box so I hope thats all the wiring ready for reassembly.
If I get a chance tomorrow Im going to make a jig to press my crank apart and on to press it back together I hope
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 22, 2019, 03:27:39 PM
Assembled my battery box and made a jig to press my crank back together was hoping it would get it fairly close save me to much belting it with a copper hammer ill see how it goes just need to make one now to press it apart.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 28, 2019, 04:58:39 PM
Tool Holder blasted primed and painted the flasher unit I polished the bolts I re plated and the bracket I manged to polish up and gave it a light coat of lacquer just need to clean the earth lead and put it back on and thats one more job of the list
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 29, 2019, 05:07:13 PM
Blasted and painted my triple tree then realized it was the wrong one not sure what it is off but I guess something without a disc brake it is different to my R5 ?
Have to start over with the right one.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on December 31, 2019, 06:43:08 PM
Hopefully got the right triple tree this time plated all the bolts I also plated the threads on the bottom of the bar clamps but they looked like they would have only been painted originally even managed to plate the original R clips probably easier just to have replaced them just need to send the fork tubes of to Dynasurf and get them fitted back on.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on January 01, 2020, 04:22:40 PM
plated a couple of more bits today tried yellow passivate on the footrest brackets there not to bad I think the voltage was a bit high Ive got a better set to do as these needed a lot of straightening as they had been grounded at some time its all a learning curve
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on January 03, 2020, 06:30:38 PM
Managed to find an old boat anode today so i melted it down then cast it into one suitable for plating ill knock it out in the morning when its cooled down be interesting to see how it performs there is enough to make several if it works ok
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on January 04, 2020, 07:29:07 PM
Cleaned my coils up just  need to fit some mew ht leads and refit them.
I also made some more anodes they came out quite well and I managed to get four good sized anodes for plating I did a test on a couple of bolts and they have come out better than with the anodes I brought from a plating company seem to be shinier and it seems like a slightly harder finish Ill see how they hold up outside
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on January 23, 2020, 09:12:35 PM
Not had a chance to do any more due to other commitments but did manage to post my forks off to Dynasurf they turned them round in 7 days and Im very pleased with them good price too.
I also came across a 1979 RD400 this week same owner from new all original supplied by local dealer for £1200 guess you just never know whats out there.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Fredswat on January 24, 2020, 06:42:10 AM
Wow sounds like you found some gold there.  What a price for an RD400 never thought I would here that sort of number again.  Well done
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on January 24, 2020, 12:47:44 PM
Its not for sale thats what he paid new he valued it at £3000 to £3500 I thought that was under valued but its not for sale hes hoping to get it back up and running again certainly would be a nice one to own.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: GR400 on January 24, 2020, 01:21:43 PM
You don't get much late 400 for £3k these days!  Can't be many one owner bikes left.  If you can persuade him to join forum would be great to see some pics and follow his progress with it.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on January 25, 2020, 08:42:48 PM
Ill have a word with him the bike is in good condition I think hes going to get his son in law to get it back on the road Ill let him know about the forum or try to get some pics
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on January 28, 2020, 08:45:43 PM
Battery leads looked worse for wear so i decided to replace them with something a little bigger the braided sleeve and pvc sleeve has had it as well so Ill replace this as well.
The first job was to remove the battery terminal on the positive lead this was broken and had been soldered together so I had a go at making a new one I tried several times with brass annealed and not annealed but they just snapped when I tried to crimp them so i opted for copper and this seems to have worked ok Ill solder it as well just to make sure
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on January 30, 2020, 09:18:24 PM
Found one of my heads had a broken fin so thought id have a go at repairing it the weld isnt great but I realized I was using the wrong rod but its well penetrated and all the filing hack sawing and grinding it feels  solid so I think it will be fine for what i want if I thought it wouldnt do the job i would have ground it out and done it again bit of welding ally the other day went much better with the correct rod
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on January 31, 2020, 06:45:35 PM
Had a look at my petrol tap today one of the screws was oversize so ive filled it with jb weld and will tap it to the correct size in the morning.
Also plated a few bits and made a new pin for the petrol cap I had the short one but the longer one was missing ive got some stainless e clips as they were missing as well.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on January 31, 2020, 11:12:17 PM
These bikes have had plenty of bodges done to them over the years.
Are you changing the crinkle washer whilst working on the tap?

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on February 01, 2020, 06:18:10 PM
I must admit I hadn't planned to change it as it looks in good condition is this something likely to give problems
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on February 01, 2020, 06:28:14 PM
Well the fuel tap was a failure I thought it would tap ok but just couldn't get it to bite so it ended up chewing the jb weld out.
I didn't want to give up on it so I decided to try a brass bush I drilled this then tapped it M3 then turned the outside so it was an interference fit I didn't want it to tight as it would probably split the fuel tap casting then I pressed it in with some glue.
It went in really well so that was one more ticked of a never ending list thinking this could be useful on carbs in the future.
Then I went on to the job I had planned first which was to rebuild the forks I fitted the triple tree with new bearings and thought I would fit the steering lock before the forks in case there was any issues this took me of course and I ended up stripping the locks as there was some wear in them that lead me on to the ignition switch which also needed stripping anyway there all working fine now on one key apart from the petrol tank lock this is handed the other way so a different key ill try to source another lock for this be handy if they were all the same key although no big deal.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on February 01, 2020, 07:33:22 PM
I must admit I hadn't planned to change it as it looks in good condition is this something likely to give problems
If you have a leak from the tap, it's likely to be the wavy washer not being as wavy as it should be

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on February 01, 2020, 07:35:14 PM
Looks like a good repair to the tap
Heathen that I am, I changed the pozis to cap heads

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on February 01, 2020, 07:53:40 PM
Thanks i will keep an eye on it pozis or cap heads it will still be just as much fun
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on February 07, 2020, 06:52:36 PM
Forgot to take some before pics of this lever it had been on the ground at some point and the ball had a flat on it and it was quite bent and scratched up managed to reshape the ball and polish out the scratches and it has come out quite well I no they are noe that expensive but its nice to save an original part if possible
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on February 07, 2020, 06:59:58 PM
Managed to get the triple tree fitted and the forks assembled ill get some 10/30 in them before I refit them
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on February 09, 2020, 06:50:02 PM
Cleaned and polished the rear hub and brake plate also had a go at another old master cylinder lever either that or dump it so nothing to lose the thread had stripped so I tapped it out and made an aluminium insert tapped out to the correct size then screwed and glued it in with jb weld cut it off to size and polished it up perfectly usable now hopefully
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on February 15, 2020, 07:43:24 PM
Still trying to improve my plating finding the new anodes i made much better so I did another set of footrest brackets to test as I wasnt happy with the last set these in a bit better condition to start but they have come out quite well still cant get them to come out of the tank shiny so have to give them a light brush with a brass brush before pasivating them but ill keep trying
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on March 28, 2020, 08:42:02 PM
Finally managed to get back to the bike Dad had a stroke so had to put it on hold for a bit plated my last set of footrest brackets and Im happy with them this time think these are the correct ones not sure what the others were off they dont have the the
three welds on them.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on March 28, 2020, 08:48:01 PM
Heres the new battery connector loom I made up slightly heavier gauge cable than original
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on March 28, 2020, 09:00:40 PM
Got the forks fitted and blasted the hubs and disc brake mounting plate I wanted to fit them up before I laced the rims in case there was any issues Ive got some new old stock Takasago rims as these were a lot cheaper than getting the originals re chromed plus it saved a bit of time.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 01, 2020, 10:31:05 PM
Had another go at the master cylinder with the broken mirror  I drilled it a while back and its been been soaking in penetrating oil for about a month but hasnt done anything.
I tried tapping it out half way with a smaller thread then put in a bollt on the impact gun hoping it might shift it but it was still solid.
Next thought as I wanted it of the list was to put a small milling cutter down one side just to relieve the thread in a small area then I picked at the thread with a small pointed punch chipping out little bits then once the top threads were exposed I put it back in the mill and gently opened it up just shy of the thread and picked the remainder of the broken mirror out the penetrating oil had done nothing but it picked out ok then I ran a left hand tap down it and its pretty good the mirror is a good fit in the thread with no play so that one can be ticked of the list.
One thing I had wanted to try was nitric acid to burn it out but seems impossible to get nowadays but its done anyways
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 01, 2020, 10:35:10 PM
Managed to get my disc finished so next Im hoping to lace the wheels thats a first for me so Ill see how I get on
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 01, 2020, 10:45:29 PM
Regarding the mirror thread, Stephen (My precious) did a tutorial thread on how to resurrect the thread. I would guess it is Skill Center somewhere.

The disc looks excellent

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 02, 2020, 07:17:32 PM
Fitted a few more bits today coils chain guard  and grab rail I havnt had anything chromed as it is in good condition but will need to get the rear mudguard done at some point,
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 02, 2020, 07:33:13 PM
Laced my front wheel today with the nos rim date code shows 08 1982 I think Ill keep the original rims with the bike but for me these rims were a cheap option and im quite happy with them.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 02, 2020, 07:37:39 PM
Also managed to get my seat finished I turned some new studs for the stainless strip and plated them just waiting for some new spire clips to arrive to fix it properly
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 02, 2020, 08:00:57 PM
Fitted battery box and Tank to check fork clearance before I went any further I should have checked it before paint but it looked ok and luckily it was all good
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 04, 2020, 08:49:23 PM
Finished my wheels yesterday the rear nos  rim I brought had a 303 code which I think was Kawasaki I thought it would be correct all the same and it was fine all the spokes pulled up straight it has  a date code 09 1980 bit older than the front rim just waiting for a spoke wrench to arrive and ill put them in the bike and true them up.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 04, 2020, 08:52:47 PM
Got the wiring loom fitted today seemed to go fairly straight forward well see when I power it up what problems I have
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 04, 2020, 09:01:48 PM
Also fitted the engine this isnt the one for the bike but it is rebuilt and ready to go so its going in for now when i fitted it I noticed the left barrel had a 10mm stud one side so of it came and into the workshop I tried to remove it to modify it but its in ther solid so i took to it with a die grinder I put  a washer on to stop hitting the barrel then ground it down to 8mm folowing the inner thead of the 10mm stud I filed the last bit dowm using the blunt edge of the file against the barrel so not to mark it.
Then I cut an 8mm thread on it I couldnt get the 8mm die started by hand I often find it hard to get it going so I ran an m9 x 1.25 on it first then the m8 x 1.25 which worked very well.
Then I checked the other barrel and this had an M10 thread cut but no stud so I turned an M10  bolt in the lathe and made a stud to suit it was much easier than doing it in the head but  I think if I had tried to remove the one in the other side it may have caused more problems.
Then I went and chipped a lump out of one of my 521 heads so thats another story ill get the tig out tomorrow and see what I can do when Ive finished sulking guess in the world at the moment its not really important though this thing is keeping me sane.
Big thanks to sfbrain for his resto thread its saved me no end of problems like fitting the footrest brackets before fitting the engine
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 04, 2020, 09:13:23 PM
Wow you must have an excellent workshop available.
Good luck with the repair to the cylinder head

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 04, 2020, 09:20:26 PM
When I refitted the barrels I found tie wraps to be very good piston ring compressors then cut them off I have got a piston ring compressor but its more suited to them being put in from the top of an engine in this situation I dont think it would be any good
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 04, 2020, 09:21:49 PM
Hopefully it will be ok when I do a bit of scrap it is perfect when I do something that matters it seems to go all to hell fingers crossed
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 05, 2020, 06:35:37 PM
Heres a pic of the head I didnt take a pic of the missing lump but you can see by the weld it was about the size of a penny I did try to weld the piece back in but it didnt want to weld very well so I tried building it up with filler rod then took to it with a rasp to remove the bulk of it then I sanded it and polished it.
Its come out quite well I could do with some more practice but im low on argon and cant get any at the moment so had to go for it although when I welded some ally plate it welds much nicer than this cast head.
You wouldnt know it had been done when it is on the bike so overall Im pleased with it but im sure I can get better with practice.
One thing that did come to mind while I was repairing it was that it would be an easy job to cut the outer fin of an old head and weld the new fin on from underneath but all my heads are serviceable and I didnt want to sacrifice one for this
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 05, 2020, 08:09:42 PM
Well done with the repair to the fin, no one will ever know (apart from your good self )

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 06, 2020, 09:01:24 PM
Bit more progress today i started on the Stator checked the wiring etc first job was to replace the wiring grommet sleeve it had split I had one on order from Yambits but started it anyway.
First I ground down an old screwdriver to release the wiring connectors then I removed the old sleeve and decided to have a go at repairing it I cut it off square and then heated a drill the correct size for the sleeve and let it melt its way through the grommet then I super glued the sleeve into the grommet was well pleased with it although about half an inch shorter it looked fine so I reassembled the connectors.
Next I fitted the rotor to the bike and finally I plated the petrol cap parts .
when I went in the Yambits parcel had arrived so I had a look at the new cable sleeve grommet although it looked ok it is about half the length of the original so no good really so I was pleased I managed to repair the original,
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 08, 2020, 09:50:01 PM
Few more jobs done I finished the fuel cap with new rubbers chrome is fairly good so its going on as is I want a usable bike that said im trying to keep it as original as possible.
Then I fitted the stator and used an old spark plug to make a dial gauge holder the dial gauge is a standard size one but just about fits under the frame rails I did need to make a little brass extension for it as it didnt quite reach the piston then I timed the engine to 1.9mm below tdc the head in the pics is the one I welded up and it is better than I hoped for.
I did notice that when timing the right hand side cylinder it felt a little bit notchy a tdc first thought was the primary gear so I removed this but it was still the same so I removed the head and found a little bit of something embedded in it it was fairly soft so probably would have not caused a problem.
I refitted the head although much better but I still felt it wasnt right so of it came again looks like plenty of clearance but the head gasket could slide forward slightly if not careful so I relocated it and put the head back on and it seems ok now I can only think it was just touching the edge of the head gasket.
Then got out my oil tank to fit a new window put my finger in there to check it was clean and found a bit of grit I thought I had it well sealed when I blasted it but something got in somehow why I didnt check it before I sprayed it I dont know anyway I tried flushing it with fairy liquid and water but it wouldnt dissolve the old oil with the grit stuck to it didnt fancy petrol so put some panel wipe in there and that dissolved it then re flushed it with fairy and water the just water and the hose and its cleaned it out perfectly dried it with a hot air gun and fitted new window.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 09, 2020, 09:10:09 PM
Stripped the carbs down today first job was to strip the paint off they were blocked solid even the fuel inlet passages so I put them into the ultrasonic cleaner I used white vinegar at 60 degrees for 15 minutes then I soda blasted them at low pressure you can see them side by side one straight out of the cleaner and one soda blasted.
Then I made an adapter for the bottom of the carbs so I can set the fuel level on the bench I find it much easier to cure any leaks before there fitted also I think it a more accurate way of setting the fuel level.
Then refitted all the jets and fuel bowls etc just need to test for leaks and then they can go on the bike I know they should be black but im going to leave them like this while I set them up and if it all runs ok ill remove them and paint them when Ive finished ,
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 09, 2020, 09:33:37 PM
Are they "high top" carburetors? I think the carbs on my A are supposed to be black, but they work just as well being bare alloy

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 09, 2020, 09:38:25 PM
Yes they are high tops I was hoping the black paint wouldnt affect the running thats put my mind at rest
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 10, 2020, 10:23:12 PM
Stripped and cleaned the reed valves then went to fit them to the bike and found the allen bolts had been cut short on some of the holes due to them being blocked so tapped them out and fitted the correct length allen bolts 10 minute job turned into three hours but always wary with ally very easy to strip the threads like with all things if I had known when the engine was out it would have been a lot easier.
Then I set the fuel level and checked for leaks on the carbs I used an old Z1 intake manifold to mount the carbs for checking and an auxiliary fuel tank one was just right the other ones fuel level was very high then fitted them back on the bike.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 11, 2020, 10:38:24 AM
I love your fuel level checking kit, this is something I haven't seen before

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 11, 2020, 02:46:12 PM
Its the only way I know for sure to know whats going on inside the carbs if the shut off valves are slightly different no amount of measuring will get it right i hate putting them on and find they leak I rebuilt my Z1 carbs a few months back and these were a right fiddle to get on and of and I had quite a few problems on the bench which were easy to fix compared to on the bike that said it will probably run rubbish after all that.
When I had two strokes years ago just used to get on and ride them didnt have a clue about any of it then but they seemed to keep going fine ignorance is bliss.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 11, 2020, 10:22:12 PM
Cleaned my calipers and rebuilt them also rebuilt the master cylinder and bench tested them before I paint them
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 12, 2020, 09:19:24 PM
painted the master cylinder and caliper I also  fitted the brake lever but didnt have the correct bolt so I turned down a brass bush and used a m6 bolt the Yamaha lettering on the caliper decal was a bit worse for wear so i touched it in with a magic marker.
Then I dug out the fork shroud Im going to use this again without re chroming as it in good condition but the inside was very rusty rather than leave it unprotected I gave it a coat of primer and chrome paint.

Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 13, 2020, 08:59:55 PM
Not much progress today lost one of the rubbers that go under the ears so spent half the day trying to find it bloody thing  had gone behind the outboard motor how ill never know but I found it in the end could have used an o ring but it annoyed me there one minute and gone the next.
Anyway got the brake lines and ears fitted and spent the rest of the day trying to figure out the cable routing and throttle clutch cables etc anyway got that all sorted so just need to get on with it now.
I was missing quite a few bolts that were either missing or sheared of so Ive been turning the numbers of some standard 8.8 bolts and re plating them when needed they seem to be a good likeness to the originals .
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: betty foRD on April 14, 2020, 12:34:59 PM
Read the progress with admiration, Rome wasn’t built in a day but if you do a little bit each day it soon adds up.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 14, 2020, 07:29:35 PM
Its getting there I can see why a lot of projects never get finished its amazing how much work there is in all the little bits let alone all the little bits that are broken or missing.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 14, 2020, 07:43:27 PM
Started the day with the clutch lever nice simple job polished painted and re plated the fittings.
Then it was on to the dash first job was to beat out the dents in the dash panel then touched in the worn black parts where the key fob had rubbed over the years and finally gave it a light coat of lacquer it not perfect but its not bad either.
Sprayed the speedo covers.
Speedo and tacho just needed a clean then tested all the idiot lights on the bench before reassembly.
All back together time to fit it to the bike connect it all up and put some power on much to my amazement it all worked first time even had a good spark.
Added a couple of pics before I started them the bezel was cracked but i managed to cross drill it pin and glue it with jb weld I did this a year ago because I wanted to see how it held up before I assembled them but it has held with no signs of any repair.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 14, 2020, 11:12:44 PM
That Speedo assembly has come up well

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 15, 2020, 07:15:50 PM
Bit more progress today tires haven't arrived yet so I fitted the wheels back on the bike to true them up they were miles out at first but a bit of tweaking the spokes and I got them to within 0.2mm never built a wheel before so I dont know what is acceptable but they seem pretty straight to me.
Then I fitted the front mudguard and removed the parking permit sticker and cleaned and polished the mudguard stays also got the headlight fitted the parking light wasnt working but it turned out the earth had come unsoldered so an easy fix.
couple of bits i found im missing front brake pipe holder and rear indicator mounts but the list is getting less.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 16, 2020, 07:46:05 PM
Thought i would have a go at making some rear indicator brackets as I didnt have any all I had was one washer so I marked out an old bit of ally and drilled the recess for the indicator then marked them out as best I could cut them out and filed them to shape drilled and pressed in a locating pin one for the indicator and one in the rear for the grab rail and polished them up when I test fitted them I found I needed to mill a recess in the back to allow for them to compress on the rubber grommet without sticking out to much I also needed to turn a couple of brass spacers for inside the grommets.
The grommets I found in a box of assorted grommets and seem to fit fine not sure mow accurate they are as I only had a picture to make them from but Im happy with them.
Then I went on to have a go at the missing washer I found a piece of pipe the same size as the washer I had and pressed a suitable sized washer into the pipe with a socket to form a replacement then blasted and plated them.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 18, 2020, 07:40:24 PM
Went to torque my clutch spring bolts and found one of the lugs was missing I had another inner boss but this had two missing so I thought Id tackle that one first I drilled the holes for a 10mm tap and tapped them with a fine thread as I thought this would be strongest but I made a mistake as it seems a course thread is stronger in ally and this seems very true.
Then I turned and threaded some ally to fit screwed it in and welded the back of the stud then milled it flush and also the inside of the stud to the same length as the others when I did the second boss that had one missing stud I used an m10 1.25 tap and die this was a huge improvement on the fine thread and I think it would have been fine if I had just screwed it in with some jb weld but I welded the back up just to be sure I was surprised how far the weld penetrated the hole in the middle when I drilled it out anyway its made two good usable clutch bosses.
Then I made a blanking plate for the oil pump and sprayed the cases I managed to get the original Yamaha badge of with a heat gun sand stuck it back on.
Hopefully tomorrow I can get the clutch fitted and get some oil in the gearbox.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 18, 2020, 08:40:18 PM
Well done for managing to repair those clutch bosses.
Out of minor interest and as you are working in that area, could you measure the gearbox dipstick and see if it is 95mm or 110mm long?
Thanks

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 18, 2020, 10:21:33 PM
No problem I will measure it tomorrow
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 19, 2020, 09:57:54 AM
Heres a pic of the dipsticks the metal one was in my 521 engine the other was in a earlier 350 engine
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 19, 2020, 09:54:42 PM
Re fitted the clutch toady I found a later pressure plate that engages with the inner boss so used this as I guess it will put less force on the springs and fixing lugs.
Then cleaned and painted the case and removed the clutch operating mechanism and re fitted it all.
Then I had a go at the fixing screws these were in a bad state and I guess would normally end up in the bin but I thought I would see what I could do with them I put them in the vice and dressed the damaged areas back then got a screwdriver bit think it was pz3 and hit it in to reform the shape I think they would have been jis but this seemed to work well and then gave them a coat of matt black screwdriver bit fits them well now and I personally prefer them to Allen screws was quite surprised with the results as I thought they were scrap.
Next I cleaned up and touched in the Yamaha decal for the points cover.
Finally I made some blanking plugs for the oil lines Im going to run it on premix  but wanted to retain the oil lines etc so ran them from the carbs to the pump housing and blanked them of there.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 19, 2020, 10:20:14 PM
You did very well with the screws! I would have certainly have thrown them away and fitted a set of allen screws instead.

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 20, 2020, 07:41:54 PM
Not much progress today spent half the day trying to find the correct route for the breather and overflow pipes then while looking through some of the old resto threads I realized I was missing my crankcase breather so i located one and had to remove the rear engine mount to get to the bolt to mount the fixing bracket for the hose.
Also while reading through the threads I came across panunos tip on removing the emulsion tubes from the carbs so I thought I better get them off and have a look needless to say they were a right mess so some good came of it.
One thing I did get done was to polish my indicator lenses they were quite badly scratched I started with some solvol and wet and dry then got a bit lazy and thought i would try them on the buffing wheel to my surprise they came up really well I thought they would probably melt knowing my luck but they turned out ok.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 21, 2020, 07:32:51 PM
Tyres Indicators and some cables turned up today indicators are hendler and look good quality for the price there one piece but there fine for me ill just put my lenses on them one thing I did notice was they didnt have the little notch cut out of them but this should be fairly simple to correct.
I did make a board up to protect my rims when I fit my tyres on whether it will be any good ill find out soon.
While it was fresh in my mind I decided to strip my 522 carbs to my surprise they were mint inside even the emulsion tubes one thing I did notice was the main jet was nylon never seen that before.
I also moved the throttle cable to the other side of the bike when I looked at the routing pictures I had it wrong seems much better now.
Finally I thought id fit the tacho cable nice easy job I thought but it wasnt to be screwed on the tacho no problem went to screw it on to the engine no way would it tighten up first thought was id cross threaded it but only used my fingers to tighten so I took it of and tried it on another engine out of the bike so I could see what was going on no way it was going to screw on that either it wasnt crossed and the thread was correct but not quite deep enough luckily I had an m16 tap so I managed to get that through and it fitted fine should have sent it back but i didnt want to wait for a new one to arrive at least its sorted.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 21, 2020, 10:00:48 PM
I'm not sure I would reuse the nylon jets, I would replace them with proper brass ones. I think it's Allens that supply genuine Mikuni parts.

Good luck with the tyre fitting, it should be easy, but I don't have the knack and after repeatedly catching the tube, I now pay for the job to be done

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 22, 2020, 09:39:43 AM
Thinking the same about the jets I didnt see what size they were out of interest guess they must be aftermarket though ill see how the tyres go hoping if I put them in the sun they will get nice and soft.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: betty foRD on April 22, 2020, 12:25:26 PM
Nylon jets were the cheaper option back in the day, especially if you were doing tuning so needed a good variety of sizes. (Got a box full here !)
I agree, for stock motor treat your beauty to a pair of genuine new ones!
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 22, 2020, 01:10:37 PM


Thinking the same about the jets I didnt see what size they were


Stephen (My Precious) created a table of the different carb specifications for the different STANDARD bikes. Whilst I would still do a plug chop to check that the bike is running correctly, it will give you an idea for a starting point

http://www.aircooledrdclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=43267.0

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: betty foRD on April 22, 2020, 02:30:28 PM
standard setup with baffled filter, main is 105.
If you are using unbaffled filter you’ll need 140 main
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 22, 2020, 04:43:15 PM
Thanks the carbs that im using at the moment are 105 with correct pilot jets Ive got a baffled filter so ill use that when I get round to doing the correct engine ill treat the carbs to a set of new jets is there any advantage to an unbaffled air filter or just more noise thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 22, 2020, 07:46:02 PM
Had a look at the indicators today and decided they wouldn't fit sensibly into my original mounts without modifying them or the indicators so decided to turn a couple of new ones to fit I threaded them on to the indicators rather than using the notch as in the originals then drilled the back for the locating pin being threaded when located  by the pin on the headlight ear then bolted up it acts to lock them in position I also had to modify the ones I made for the rear and remove the locating pin I had put in I was glad I had sorted a problem I had before I painted the tin work as I had a problem getting them all aligned correctly horrible if you  find these things after paint but they went on well very pleased with them.
I also noted that they have no rubber sealing ring behind the lens but the originals fit fine with the original lenses just need the original screws as there a bit longer.
One thing I need to sort is the right hand indicator dash light isn't working I tested them before I fitted it but there you go just one more little job.
Then I had a go at fitting my front tyre I had brought a nice set of rim protectors and tyre spoons but didn't need them.
Took it into the poly tunnel to heat the tyre up half an hour and it was nice and soft so I fitted it in there managed to get it on without using any levers so was pleased with that just the rear to fit hopefully it will go just as well remembered to position the yellow dot and direction arrow correctly thankfully.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: betty foRD on April 22, 2020, 08:15:44 PM
Only ‘advantage’ these days  of the un baffled filter is they are easier to get hold of. All the modern patterns are un baffled. But yes, later type as part of the noise reduction mods and no loss of power.
Those engines aren’t really breathing that hard in stock tune.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 22, 2020, 09:08:06 PM
Thanks ill stick with my baffled filter as I already have one
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 23, 2020, 07:54:12 PM
Rear tyre fitted and front and rear sprockets just need to get a new chain.
Then I tackled the indicator warning light turned out to be the bulb but a right pain to get to.
Then I needed  a spring for the oil breather I found one in with the parts that came with the bike but it seemed a bit short its the one on the left  so I found one in a box of springs and stretched it out and seems more suitable for the job.
Finally filled the gearbox with oil no leaks but it does appear a bit high on the dipstick ill see if it settles.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 25, 2020, 04:27:59 PM
No luck finding a front brake hose bracket so had a go at making one bit fiddly to get right only pictures to use as a guide but it fits ok and will do the job.
Then the front mudguard was annoying me it was quite rusty inside so I cleaned it up primed it and gave it a coat of chrome paint also sprayed the top of the stay brackets between the mudguard and stay as these wouldn't polish up looks good on the bike and will stop it rusting in the future.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 25, 2020, 04:50:02 PM
Was there any issues when you fitted the side stand?
Steve has started a recent topic and is having difficulty fitting the bolt

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 25, 2020, 04:54:34 PM
I haven't fitted it yet will yet you know if there is an issue.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 25, 2020, 05:26:48 PM
I haven't fitted it yet will yet you know if there is an issue.
You may want to have a quick look at that thread, it doesn't hurt to be prewarned.

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 25, 2020, 09:17:17 PM
Did get out and fit the side stand this evening after your post got me thinking and it went on fine the bolt head  needed to have the flat parallel with the frame to go in but that was all will have a read of that post heres a pic of the oil level on the dipstick it is about 10 to 15mm above the high mark without the dipstick screwed in its been sat with oil in for a couple of days but not run yet.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 25, 2020, 09:45:18 PM
Are you utilising the 100mm dipstick rather than the 110mm?

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 26, 2020, 09:47:36 PM
Tried the dipstick out of the 521 engine and same result 20mm above  high mark will let you know when Ive started it if it changes
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 26, 2020, 10:01:07 PM
Fitted the air box today then on to that dreaded y boot search through box of bits can only find one clip that fits I know you can get them from Yambits but I wanted to get on so thought I would try making them it wasn't to bad drilled a hole and filled with weld then filed back lot easier if I had a spot welder but worked ok then little bit of dressing in the vice and I ended up with a usable set of clips Y boot was a pain to get fitted but its on now with a new baffled air filter.
Then fitted the oil tank Im going to run it on premix as I like the smell of castor oil but filled the oil tank with oil to stop it rusting.
Finally fitted the side stand and spring tried to pull it the spring tie wraps but it didnt work for me in the end I fitted the spring then the side stand and it was fairly easy that way round for me.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 26, 2020, 10:11:06 PM
You have come on in leaps and bounds, particularly considering you are doing additional tasks like making your own clips!

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 26, 2020, 10:45:44 PM
Finally starting to look like a motorcycle again cant wait to get it fired up
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 27, 2020, 08:35:34 PM
Not much done today did manage to get the front brake bled thought it would be easy as I had already bench tested it but it was difficult to get it going let it sit for a bit and finally it started to pump through then filled the oil tank with oil even though I wont be using it at the moment thought it would stop any rust forming on the inside.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 29, 2020, 07:40:19 PM
Managed to get my seat finished today new spire clips although they did need flattening a bit to make them grip nicely fitted the document flap and sprayed the seat lock.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on April 29, 2020, 09:46:08 PM
The base of your seat looks in really good condition
Did it require much restoration? It is one of the items that often deteriorates when s split cover allows water ingress

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 30, 2020, 09:30:22 AM
No it wasn't great looked not to bad till I blasted it took quite a while to get it to where it is now I dont know why but  I even got the inside looking as good as the outside.
I dont think they were painted on the inside hence why they seem to rust badly I couldn't find any signs of it ever being painted on the inside anyway I thought I had a before pic but cant seem to find one.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: betty foRD on April 30, 2020, 12:52:53 PM
Correct...only painted on the underside side...
Uk climate seems to be pretty much the worst for them too for that and Motty’s point about wet getting in.
Fortunately till seem to be ‘plenty’ of decent bases in USA and EU though.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on April 30, 2020, 06:49:35 PM
Dug out my petrol tank to fit the cap and fuel tap cant believe its been nearly a year since I painted it.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 01, 2020, 11:05:55 PM
Cleaned the baffles and got the exhausts on today all original chrome  on this bike so far apart from the downpipes not perfect but very good for its age will have to get the rear mudguard done at some point.
Managed to get her outside and fired up wouldn't start at first till I realized that I forgot to put the bleeding choke on just need my chain to arrive and ill give it a run round the yard.
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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on May 01, 2020, 11:08:12 PM
It's always a good day when your rebuilt bike runs for the first time.
It shouldn't be long now, before it's finished (assuming we ever really finish them)

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 01, 2020, 11:12:42 PM
Very true I need to re  build the original engine and numerous other bits and bobs in the future but at least I will have a usable bike to play with.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 02, 2020, 07:34:44 PM
Checked the oil level after running it and left stood overnight no oil leaks but level is now on high mark on the dipstick when its screwed in with exactly 1500cc of oil.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 02, 2020, 07:38:01 PM
Manged to spray my number plate bracket with Ford Moon dust Silver its not a million miles away from the tank although the metal flake is much smaller.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on May 02, 2020, 09:34:56 PM
Checked the oil level after running it and left stood overnight no oil leaks but level is now on high mark on the dipstick when its screwed in with exactly 1500cc of oil.
That's good to know, at least you now can trust the dipstick

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 07, 2020, 09:38:04 PM
Managed to get it out of the dirty shed and put it in another dirty shed.
Battery arrived today went through several options living on the Isle of Wight postage was as dear as the battery anyway found this gel one 6 ah for £18.99 delivered it said it was 113 long so I thought it might be a bit tight but it turned out to be 110mm so fitted easily width 70mm height 105mm so need a bit of packing on the with to stop it sliding about will see how long it lasts.
New Did chain has arrived so ill get it fitted and try it round the yard.


Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on May 07, 2020, 10:11:50 PM
What a tease!
Is there any chance of a few additional photos of the Escort lurking at the back of that shed

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 07, 2020, 10:35:04 PM
Thats one of my sons future projects ill take a couple more pics if you want it looks better in the photo but its a good solid shell just needs painting properly.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: stevie747 on May 08, 2020, 08:17:47 AM
Ohhh a domed head bolt...  :D
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 08, 2020, 09:51:28 PM
Few more pics for Motty Little Fiesta lurking along side
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Captain Scarlet on May 09, 2020, 01:28:03 PM
 8) Lovely cars  :)
Here in Essex we love a fast Ford  ;)
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on May 09, 2020, 01:33:17 PM
Few more pics for Motty Little Fiesta lurking along side

Thank you for the additional photos, it looks in really good condition. If you roped into working on it, I'm sure a Escort Restoration topic would be welcomed on here


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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: GAZZATT2 on May 09, 2020, 01:57:04 PM
Few more pics for Motty Little Fiesta lurking along side

Thank you for the additional photos, it looks in really good condition. If you roped into working on it, I'm sure a Escort Restoration topic would be welcomed on here


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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: betty foRD on May 09, 2020, 04:23:20 PM
Escorts vs Minis....
now that would be a debate to polarise our harmonious members  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on May 09, 2020, 04:44:17 PM
Escorts vs Minis....
now that would be a debate to polarise our harmonious members  :D :D :D
That is very controversial and probably not be debated on this topic
Dare we have a poll?

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: betty foRD on May 09, 2020, 05:43:20 PM
No it would probably be like the Brexit vote or which is better 109 vs spitfire, or ....probably best I stop now...
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Tailchaser on May 09, 2020, 07:18:29 PM
and lord help us if we mention the P****N word!
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: betty foRD on May 09, 2020, 07:51:32 PM
and lord help us if we mention the P****N word!

We could play hang man...is there an ‘i’ in it ?
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: betty foRD on May 09, 2020, 07:58:06 PM
Ian, sorry, we have somewhat diverted you thread....motty started it mentioning Escorts  :D
Happy to clean up and delete today’s additions if you wish.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 09, 2020, 08:17:35 PM
No problem at all glad you enjoyed them the Fiesta he did a couple of years ago and its a credit to him.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 12, 2020, 08:06:50 PM
Fitted my tank and seat today couldn't figure out how the seat stay went on until I came in and found a picture of how it should be didn't even realize it wasn't meant to be like mine anyway straightened it out and all became clear.
Then put some petrol in the tank only to find it peeing out of the fuel tap I nearly tested it on the bench but thought it would be ok as I fitted a new seal manged to get some towels under it before it stripped all the casing drained it out and had a look turned out I must have got the spring washer trapped between the plate and not seated against the tap lever when i reinstalled it the tap felt much better and was sealing against the rubber refilled it and no leaks this time.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 12, 2020, 08:13:16 PM
Got my chain fitted and thought id give her a run round the field bit bumpy but couldn't resist trying it out started first kick and gearbox feels smooth only got into third engine pulled well if anything slightly bogging when pulling away but not bad for a first run will pull the plugs tomorrow and see how they look then need to road test it properly when I get it taxed.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on May 12, 2020, 10:18:26 PM
Looking good in the sunshine
Did you fit a shut off valve on the petrol pipe that links the two halves of the tank?

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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 13, 2020, 04:23:03 PM
No I didnt but I think its one of many little jobs that I will do in the future I need to get my mudguard repaired first all the time Ive been doing the rest of the bike ive been practicing my tig welding on and of I was going to tig braze the mudguard repair it looks nice and cleans up well but is not as strong as weld then I thought i would mig it but in the end I found tig weld with steel filler is what im going to go for seems to give a nice clean weld without any pinholes and quite controllable on thin metal so ill keep you posted on how it turns out this will be the only new bit of chrome on the bike.
Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: Motty on May 13, 2020, 07:03:15 PM


No I didnt but I think its one of many little jobs that I will do in the future
If you are interested in a shut off valve, there is a member on here called Tore who had a batch manufactured a little while ago. It might be worthwhile contacting him to see if he has any left. They make the removal of the tank MUCH easier.


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Title: Re: Another Silver Dust
Post by: doggone1 on May 13, 2020, 08:13:40 PM
Thanks Ill pm him