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Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: SupeRDel on October 26, 2005, 04:28:41 AM
The Basic Yamaha RD200 Model Guide

This is a list of the models thru the 200cc range to the best of my knowledge. This list is UK based. Overseas models details may vary.



Yamaha CS3E 200 from the early 70"s









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Yamaha CS5E. 1972"ish. The bike transforms more into the early RD look. There is NO such thing as a CS4E. The 4 is a very unlucky number in Japan, hence No model 4. Also for some strange reason some CS5"s also have a CS3 frame marked frame under close inspection, which does create a lot of model confusion. You will even find this look bike described as a RD in some referance books.









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Yamaha RD200A 1973/74.









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Yamaha RD200B. 1974/75









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Yamaha RD200C. Appeared in 1976. Strangely I have one registered in 1978.





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Yamaha RD200D. 1977/78

 







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Yamaha RD200E. 1978/79









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Yamaha RD200. LC look. 1979/80









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This is the graphic style used on the RD200 from 1975/76 used in Canada/USA









Below is the model Numbers for Yamaha 200"s



CS2-C --- 238

CS2-E --- 237

CS3-C --- 273

CS3-E --- 293

There is NO 4 - that number is unlucky in Japan

CS5E --- 337

RD200 --- 556

RD200 --- 1H9

RD200-DX "78 --- 2R7

RD200 EUROPE. --- 417

RD200C "76 AUSTRALIA. --- 1J1

RD200C "76 USA CANADA. --- 1H6

RD200C NSW AUSTRALIA. --- 585

RD200C USA --- 581

RD200D "77 CANADA. --- 1W9

RD200DX "75 --- 535

RD200DX EUROPE. --- 1E8

RD200E 78 --- 2V2

RD200E USA --- 397

RD200F --- 398

RD200IR "76 MID. EAST --- 1J2



The A and the B were the 397 prefix models with round tanks and TLS brakes The 200A had tank badges from a CS5 (337), the 200Bs had graphics with a locking petrol cap, about the only difference through the model.

The American C is basically a B, they never got the coffin tank models. It was styled on the American 400C in French blue. The UK C was the start of the 1E8 range with a coffin tank, blue or orange paintwork and painted fenders. All C"s had disk brakes with the caliper if front of the fork legs and pillion pegs on the swing-arm.



397-010101      A (Other Regions)

397-110101      A (Europe)

397-200101      B

581-000101      C (Non-UK)

1E8-000000     C (UK)

1E8-100000     D

1E8-250000     E (Cast wheels)

1E8-200000     E (Spoked wheels)

1E8-300000     F

1E8-400000     G



Just to finish the theme off - here is the strange RS200 commuter type bike from the 1980 period. It came with a single carb........







Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: SupeRDel on November 15, 2005, 03:08:38 PM
Wot you see above is just a basic guide there are many variations around the world. I will try to add more of the model colours and numbers when I can. If you have any information and details to add then please do so below and I will see wot I can do to add to the listing. If you are new and have a question then please ask via the "tech section" or try the forum "search". Many questions repeat so your answer may already be there. If not or No luck then please ask
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Per Brandt on May 31, 2007, 08:27:01 PM
New to the site but I used to own a RD200E - 1976 (P-Reg) in Blue, back when I was 17 in 1979.  Does anyone on here own one or have any photos of one.



I am thinking of trying to find one to buy and restore as a replacement of the one I scrapped in 1980



If anyone knows of one anywhere please let me know?!



Cheers



pertheswede
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: SupeRDel on June 01, 2007, 04:40:32 PM
Right - I finally put the 200 guide right after the forum move jumbled it up..



I would be interested to know which bike picture matched the 200E that you had in 76
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Per Brandt on June 02, 2007, 04:51:28 AM
None of the photos match what I had I"m afraid.



This is why I said I have never seen another 1976 200E in a photo or in the flesh since I had mine.  I don"t remember seeing may others at the time (1979) either???  I think they were quite rare even then and obviously extremely rare now!!



Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: St Anthony on June 02, 2007, 05:03:38 AM
What did yours look like, did it have a coffin/round tank, disk/drum front brake, rear pegs on swing arm/frame, cast/wire wheels etc?  If it wad a disk was the caliper in front of or behind the fork leg?
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: SupeRDel on June 02, 2007, 05:24:25 AM
Well, I have every single Yamaha model line up brochure for the 70"s and there ain"t NO other 200"s listed except for the RS200 which is derived from the RD200 - not on a P plate
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Per Brandt on June 02, 2007, 04:16:00 PM
The closest one is the US RD200B model, although the colour is not quite right.  Mine had drum front and rear brakes &  a round tank.
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: SupeRDel on June 02, 2007, 04:32:52 PM
Take my word for it - you had a RD200B
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: deenjay on July 01, 2007, 10:30:31 AM
they have a CS5E on display at beauleiu motor museum lovely bit of kit

and on the comment of 4 being unlucky in japan Del is 100 percent right.



Chi which is 4 in japanese sounds like Shi which is Death

in japanese.



on that point oyasumi nasai mina san.



or its good night from me
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Per Brandt on July 01, 2007, 03:42:08 PM
I have just aquired a 1973 RD200 on an L-Reg registration at todays Bonham Auction.



What model would this be exactly please?  Would it be the RD200A??



Also does anyone have a parts list & workshop manual for it?
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: St Anthony on July 01, 2007, 05:32:08 PM
 
Quote from: pertheswede
I have just aquired a 1973 RD200 on an L-Reg registration at todays Bonham Auction.



What model would this be exactly please?  Would it be the RD200A??



Also does anyone have a parts list & workshop manual for it?




Welcome to the RD200 club where you find a better class of bike.  



The Frame/engine number will tell you what model you have, I can"t remember off hand what these are for the A and B but they are in the factory service manuals - I have a CD with pdf factory manuals for the RD200A and B amongst others.  I can let you have a copy for ?1 to cover post and packing if you are a club member or ?5 (inc postage) if you are not a club member.



You might like to try these links for parts lists:



http://www.cmsnl.com/yamaha-rd200a-1974-1975_model8518/partslist



http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/myyamaha/prompt/L3Nwb3J0L3BhcnRzL2hvbWUuYXNweA==/Parts%20Catalog/starthere.aspx



The first link is a commercial site in Holland and the lists are for the Euro models which will have some minor differences (mainly lighting) from UK models.



The second link is a Yamaha US site, click on "Proceed to Parts Catalog" then select "Product Line", Year (1975) followed by model and you will get fiche for the US model, again there may be some minor differences.
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: smokinsimmo on July 02, 2007, 05:15:46 PM
Probally a CS5 on an L plate.

I have a RD200 registered march 1973 and it is on a M plate.
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Per Brandt on July 20, 2007, 09:41:46 AM
OK, here are the details of my "new" bike.



Registered on the 23-03-1973

Frame Number & Engine #"s -  *CS3 216 ???*



So now I am even more confused



What have I got then?  Not an RD200 obviously or?



Is this an YCS-3E model bike from 1971/72 that sat around in a showroom for a while then finally sold and registered in March 1973.  The thing is I have seen some photos of the CS3 in my Haynes manual and it looks nothing like mine with different engine, tank side panels, shocks, rh front brake plate etc.  I also have an RD200 Parts Book (not UK specification) for models that came off the production line in February 1973 and the photo in this looks very similar to mine except for a few cosmetic differences like the side panels that had inset rubber knee pads etc



Here are some pics of mine, can anyone identify it please?:-











Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Per Brandt on July 20, 2007, 09:57:00 AM
Just went back to the beginning and read the comments under the CS5E photo and it actually explains the fact that the CS5"s have the CS3 stamped on the frame and the confusion it causes, so it looks like I have a late registered CS5E.  It should look like the photo in SupeRDels post (purple and white). Do I still qualify as a RD owner as I have just become a member????
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: SupeRDel on July 20, 2007, 12:31:56 PM
RD"s is just a period - we have members with pre RD models and later LC"s as well



We had a AS1 twin 125, YDS7 250 and an YR5 at the rally
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: St Anthony on July 26, 2007, 07:48:35 AM
It sounds like a D. If it is then the brake caliper will be in front of the fork leg.



The DX designation is confusing, it seems to mean many things depending on who you talk to - it is often used by suppliers to describe any disk braked RD200.
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: smokinsimmo on August 31, 2008, 08:19:17 PM
 
Quote from: deenjay
they have a CS5E on display at beauleiu motor museum lovely bit of kit




 CS5 at beauleiu. See the picture below taken by myself  at Beauleiu.(AUG.08). Just look at the crud below the Carb..

















Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Per Brandt on September 01, 2008, 06:12:12 AM
 
Quote from: smokinsimmo
 
Quote from: deenjay
they have a CS5E on display at beauleiu motor museum lovely bit of kit




It is a CS3 at beauleiu see the picture below taken by myself  at Beauleiu.(AUG.08). Just look at the crud below the Carb..





















The CS5E also carries a "CS3" frame and engine prefix for some unknown reason (maybe they had a load of stamped up frames and engines left over in the YAMAHA factory when deciding on a facelift new model 195cc bike ???)



I also own a purple and white 1973 (L-Reg) CS5E with the "CS3" prefix.  It was a barn find which now needs a new home where it can be restored to former glory.  It is an abandoned project as I need the space and it comes with a box full of original NOS and used parts.  It will soon go on eBay or contact me direct if anyone"s interested on here?



Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: keasone on December 24, 2008, 11:49:31 PM
im in aus the bike im working on starts with 397 engine and frame numbers, making it a rd200e from us yeah
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: keasone on December 24, 2008, 11:53:23 PM
 
Quote from: pertheswede
 
Quote from: smokinsimmo
 
Quote from: deenjay
they have a CS5E on display at beauleiu motor museum lovely bit of kit




It is a CS3 at beauleiu see the picture below taken by myself  at Beauleiu.(AUG.08). Just look at the crud below the Carb..





















The CS5E also carries a "CS3" frame and engine prefix for some unknown reason (maybe they had a load of stamped up frames and engines left over in the YAMAHA factory when deciding on a facelift new model 195cc bike ???)



I also own a purple and white 1973 (L-Reg) CS5E with the "CS3" prefix.  It was a barn find which now needs a new home where it can be restored to former glory.  It is an abandoned project as I need the space and it comes with a box full of original NOS and used parts.  It will soon go on eBay or contact me direct if anyone"s interested on here?











shouldnt give out vin numbers so free, criminals can use them and you can end up stung, trust me i know

Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: adodson on January 12, 2009, 04:40:03 PM
HALLELUJAH I HAVE FINALLY FOUND SOME INFORMED INTERNET PEOPLE.



Gentlemen, I recently acquired a CS5E in (mostly) good condition. Its got less than 6k miles on it and has had only 1 previous owner. The chrome is still original and shiny



Anyways, I need to fix a few things. The carb has already been cleaned out, the electrical system has new wiring, and the fuel tank has been lined.



The current issues with the bike are

1. The batteries are either weak, the starter is bad, or the alternator doesnt work.

2. the ridges on the kickstart lever clamp are badly worn down and it doesnt grip well enough to kickstart. What is involved in fixing this? The shaft is worn down too, will I have to take the motor apart and find someone with a motor shaft?



3. The engine leaks oil, i will have to find a gasket.





If anyone has any information on factory service or parts manuals PLEASE HELP ME. I need to know what other yamaha models are compatible with this bike so I can salvage parts. It has been very hard to find any information on my CS5E, so any help is very much appreciated. cheers!
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: SupeRDel on January 12, 2009, 06:07:49 PM
Its best to ask all your questions in the "Aircooled RD tech help" area - you will get more of a responce there. Thats where all the problem solving goes on.

Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: St Anthony on January 31, 2009, 06:10:59 PM
I"ve added an RD200 (2R7) Parts Manual link to the following post which appears further up this thread.



Quote from: ManInTheJar
RD125/200 Reference data is available at the following links:



RD200DX (2R7) Parts Manual



RD125/200DX Cable Routing Diagram



2R6/2R7 Supplementary Service Manual



2R7 Brochure



RD200A Wiring Diagram



RD200DX Wiring Diagram



RD125DX Wiring Diagram
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Batavus MK4S on March 14, 2009, 02:13:37 PM
1979









1981



Batavus MK4S2009-03-14 20:10:42
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Topmarksman on July 12, 2009, 06:51:55 AM
Hi. My first bike was a 1973 CS5E as shown below in 1978. I would love to get another, but they seem to be as rare as hen"s teeth. I know all purists will gnash their teeth in anguish, but do you think it would be possible to use the cycle parts from an RS200 and the RD200 engine, with a respray of the RS tank, headlamp and panels to create a CS5E look alike. I appreciate that it would be reed valved - but so was mine when I blew the main bearings on the original engine.[

Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Topmarksman on July 12, 2009, 07:12:22 AM
The purple and white on my bike is the other way round to the Beaulieu bike. I guess Yamaha just painted which ever way round they felt like on the day. According to the DVLA my bike was blue and white! But the paintwork was definitely original - perhaps whoever registered it was colour blind!
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: andy2bikes on July 19, 2009, 05:02:11 AM
EXCELLENT JOB AS USUAL DEL,

DO YOU HAVE THE MODEL YEAR COLOURS LIST AVAILABLE AS I"M DOING A LOAD OF SAMPLE TANKS/PANELS FOR RDs READY FOR THE SHOWS AS I"M CONCENTRATING ON RENOVATION SIDE OF THINGS NOW.

IV"E DONE SOME 400 STUFF BUT NOW DOING SOME 125/200 TANKS/PANELS.

ANY HELP WOULD BE APRECIATED.          
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: JBurnett on July 21, 2009, 08:35:53 PM
Hey guys, I have learned more about my bike from this forum, than anywhere else I have looked! I have a 1973 RD200, it is a burnt orange color. The number on it is 397 001183. Does this mean it"s an A or an E? My mother bought the bike in "75, and it only has 3500 miles on it. I am trying to restore it the best I can, It hasn"t run in a few years. Alot of the hoses are dried up and the air filters are crumbling. My local Yamaha dealer had no idea what I was talking about when I asked about a parts list or manual. This forum is a life saver! Thanks.
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: SupeRDel on July 23, 2009, 05:19:36 PM
Modern bike shops are useless. Can"t beat a good old fashioned old motorcycle shop



Bike shops won"t touch old RD"s either - modern mechanics simply swap parts for new bits.



Orange sounds like Portuguese Orange
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: vicparsons on August 14, 2009, 07:15:34 PM
Good to find this site. Just bought a RS200 that needs tlc. Would love a YL1 one day (my real favourite). Further to the comments about no:4. I was told a different story. 4 is represented by a table; the stability of 4 legs. This stability was considered unlucky for a dynamic company like Yamaha that was prepared to change quickly with fashion. I had a late YDS3 (YDS5 style tank) registered as YDS4. Unlucky! It broke down so often I daren"t ride it beyond easy pushing distance! Has anyone got the single saddle for an RS? Hello and best wishes to all, Vic.
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Topmarksman on August 15, 2009, 08:49:05 AM
Hi just bought a CS5E, but short of a few bits. I"m still going through the box of bits that came with it - no clutch lever but three brake levers, that sort of thing. As soon as I know what I"m short off I"ll post a shopping list. I"ll have some spares to offer in return.



Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: ringaloony on September 07, 2009, 05:25:34 PM
 having looked at the pictures above i seem to have a D model.....same colour...chrome mudguards...but its on a B plate(1984)...is this possible?

cheers marty



hang on just looked again but i have cast wheels?  confused now!



Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: Per Brandt on September 20, 2009, 03:28:48 PM
Please PM me with any tempting offers for the bike as we are not sure whether to restore it ourselves at the minute?!



Cheers



Per
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: rgv500 on October 21, 2009, 07:51:45 AM
 Where"s all the pics gone  
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: SupeRDel on October 23, 2009, 10:03:41 AM
 
Quote from: rgv500
 Where"s all the pics gone  




Have made a crude repair using the brochure pix
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: rgv500 on November 05, 2009, 04:24:34 AM
Cheers Del
Title: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: James Mandy on May 31, 2011, 02:00:09 AM
Just for updating the list, I"ve had a local Yamaha guy confirm my Australian "74 RD200 with prefix 585 is an RD200B. It"s orig colour is "high sparkle blue".
Title: Re: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: woodfoRD on February 05, 2013, 09:16:06 AM
Hi,
can anyone advise which model was the 200 with orange/gold tank with
black strip round the top of the tank
thanks :-\
Title: Re: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: ChrisA on February 05, 2013, 08:18:50 PM
I have the same question re my old N plate. It had the single black pinstripe with outer narrow white borders.
Title: Re: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: ChrisA on February 05, 2013, 08:25:48 PM
This was the model I mentioned, not sure of the exact designation
Title: Re: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: woodfoRD on February 05, 2013, 10:11:14 PM
Hello,
now believe the year is 1974  .???
Title: Re: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: oilymyke on February 06, 2013, 01:54:59 PM
This was the model I mentioned, not sure of the exact designation



That picture is the same model as mine.
According to http://myrd200site.com (http://myrd200site.com) the Vin Numbers for the RD200A started with 397-010101 for North America, and 397-110101 for Europe. The Vin Numbers for the RD200B started with 397-200101.
Makes mine an A, it was U.K. registered in 1975.
Title: Re: Yamaha RD200. The Model Guide
Post by: SupeRDel on August 24, 2013, 12:46:23 PM
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